diff --git a/slixmpp/stanza/iq.py b/slixmpp/stanza/iq.py
index 0242308e..044c9df8 100644
--- a/slixmpp/stanza/iq.py
+++ b/slixmpp/stanza/iq.py
@@ -58,14 +58,14 @@ class Iq(RootStanza):
     types = {'get', 'result', 'set', 'error'}
     plugin_attrib = name
 
-    def __init__(self, *args, **kwargs):
+    def __init__(self, *args, recv=False, **kwargs):
         """
         Initialize a new <iq> stanza with an 'id' value.
 
         Overrides StanzaBase.__init__.
         """
         StanzaBase.__init__(self, *args, **kwargs)
-        if self['id'] == '':
+        if not recv and self['id'] == '':
             if self.stream is not None:
                 self['id'] = self.stream.new_id()
             else:
diff --git a/slixmpp/stanza/message.py b/slixmpp/stanza/message.py
index 7b033e37..debfb380 100644
--- a/slixmpp/stanza/message.py
+++ b/slixmpp/stanza/message.py
@@ -53,14 +53,14 @@ class Message(RootStanza):
     lang_interfaces = sub_interfaces
     types = {'normal', 'chat', 'headline', 'error', 'groupchat'}
 
-    def __init__(self, *args, **kwargs):
+    def __init__(self, *args, recv=False, **kwargs):
         """
         Initialize a new <message /> stanza with an optional 'id' value.
 
         Overrides StanzaBase.__init__.
         """
         StanzaBase.__init__(self, *args, **kwargs)
-        if self['id'] == '':
+        if not recv and self['id'] == '':
             if self.stream is not None and self.stream.use_message_ids:
                 self['id'] = self.stream.new_id()
             else:
diff --git a/slixmpp/stanza/presence.py b/slixmpp/stanza/presence.py
index 297fcfea..022e7133 100644
--- a/slixmpp/stanza/presence.py
+++ b/slixmpp/stanza/presence.py
@@ -61,14 +61,14 @@ class Presence(RootStanza):
              'subscribed', 'unsubscribe', 'unsubscribed'}
     showtypes = {'dnd', 'chat', 'xa', 'away'}
 
-    def __init__(self, *args, **kwargs):
+    def __init__(self, *args, recv=False, **kwargs):
         """
         Initialize a new <presence /> stanza with an optional 'id' value.
 
         Overrides StanzaBase.__init__.
         """
         StanzaBase.__init__(self, *args, **kwargs)
-        if self['id'] == '':
+        if not recv and self['id'] == '':
             if self.stream is not None and self.stream.use_presence_ids:
                 self['id'] = self.stream.new_id()
 
diff --git a/slixmpp/xmlstream/stanzabase.py b/slixmpp/xmlstream/stanzabase.py
index 0fa5ef27..207ae588 100644
--- a/slixmpp/xmlstream/stanzabase.py
+++ b/slixmpp/xmlstream/stanzabase.py
@@ -1381,7 +1381,7 @@ class StanzaBase(ElementBase):
     namespace = 'jabber:client'
 
     def __init__(self, stream=None, xml=None, stype=None,
-                 sto=None, sfrom=None, sid=None, parent=None):
+                 sto=None, sfrom=None, sid=None, parent=None, recv=False):
         self.stream = stream
         if stream is not None:
             self.namespace = stream.default_ns
diff --git a/slixmpp/xmlstream/xmlstream.py b/slixmpp/xmlstream/xmlstream.py
index 02f4598c..d9edc5b2 100644
--- a/slixmpp/xmlstream/xmlstream.py
+++ b/slixmpp/xmlstream/xmlstream.py
@@ -1157,7 +1157,7 @@ class XMLStream(asyncio.BaseProtocol):
                xml.tag == stanza_class.tag_name():
                 stanza_type = stanza_class
                 break
-        stanza = stanza_type(self, xml)
+        stanza = stanza_type(self, xml, recv=True)
         if stanza['lang'] is None and self.peer_default_lang:
             stanza['lang'] = self.peer_default_lang
         return stanza